LW, has your boyfriend ever really articulated as in, clearly stated and put down in a measurable fashion what his goals for you are? When he veered into bossing me around when we were in the gym at the same time, I told him, You can be my trainer or my boyfriend, not both. The first impression is good and you two exchange numbers. This is not a democracy. He says I'm too negative and I have no friends and I'm not self sufficient. This is totally fine when your relationship is great. In my relationship Im on both sides of the caring/cared for spectrum: I have depression and my partner is physically disabled. And thats the thing, I guess. What would be his next project if you suddenly started following all his rules precisely? Jealousy is a range some people rarely get jealous and some people are constantly jealous (which, in general, is never a good thing). LW, you are already doing so much good stuff for yourself, and at your own pace. Well here are some tips what to do when your boyfriends stop texting. Do you ever get the feeling that your relationship would be completely over if you stop initiating texts or hang outs? That said, hes gotten very good about saying, OK, I can take over X now, please stop when X can be things like make sure I take my meds, make sure I eat, make sure I fill my pill pack, etc. He is a member of your team and not your coach. If this seems like the case for your boyfriend then give him some space by taking a step back yourself. He took this as a personality defect that he had to badger me into fixing. No. Nightengale, Im going to commit this one to memory! So before you jump ship, make sure to use your words. For those of us with less than optimal upbringings theres this stinger waiting for us as adults. He seems to need to control LW to feel in control of himself, and 2. At a minimum, he is not currently doing the first half. Let him know youre concerned and explain why. Dont be ashamed of using a coping method that works for you, just try and do it safely, and know that I will never be upset with you for whatever you need to do. When I started college, and made other friends, and had a job of my own. If I tell him I already did, he tells me that walking doesnt count, that it needs to be more strenuous exercise. Hes demanding you account for the stuff you do when hes not there, and is a condescending asshole about it. He picked being my boyfriend and shut the hell up when we were in the gym. Examine your behavior. What is it that he doesnt like anymore and related to your relationship together? These are pretty direct statements. If nothing changes, then its time to decide whether this is something you can live with or not. You speak for me! No-one can pressure him into anything nor does he pressure anyone else. Do you want my help with remembering to do X? and it helped him maintain his desired weight/made him feel good and he thought it was delish so it meant that I should. My family hated that I smoked and were anxious about what it was doing to my health, my boyfriend hated it, my friends hated it but trying to quit for other people never worked. But for LW, I think that goes back to another commenters suggested script of, How does this [exercise/ food choice/ personal health issue] affect [Boyfriend]? in thatit doesnt affect the boyfriend. Lets stay on topic.. Its more complicated when mental illness is involved, especially when youre legitimately working on improving yourself everything about yourself (and your relationships) feels like something you can work hard and improve, and if it doesnt happen it feels like a personal failing. What your boyfriend is doing is totally not how it has to be. I dont know if your boyfriend will ever accept that your moods are part of the package but there will be someone who will. Weve never reached a good resolution about this, and it keeps coming up. 1. Because housework affects everyone in the house, but what LW puts in their body, and how LW exercises? But that makes deliberately exercising seem like Im bowing down to that warped idea of my self-worth. Taking emotions out of decision making is actually a highly irrational approach. Or at least he meant something. (Robert Shea and Robert Anton Wilson, Illuminatus!, [possibly mis]quoted from memory., So, heres the thing about exercise and depression: everyones mileage will vary on that. Ive been getting that in a current relationship myself, hey I did X, yay me is almost always responded to with what about Y and Z? We both loved science fiction. didnt care to be badgered about things and it needed to stop. (wanting to control you in not good ways), Getting angry at the depressed partner is not good. I want to challenge this. Yes. So this guy is trying everything he can to fix the LWbut since depression makes people act against their best interests, the boyfriend doesnt trust said LW to deal with this on their own. I want to make him happy It's not about him, it's about you. I dont know what your boyfriends views on your therapist or on therapy in general are, but he might use a comment like this as evidence that your therapist clearly has no clue whats going on in your life so you should just listen to him and do everything he says. He could be funny, kind, generous, and decent. Count me in with the DTMFA crowd. In leechspeak, logical and reasonable mean Whatever I want is logical and reasonable because I want it.. This boyfriend does not sound like good news to me. Incidentally, I also learned a lot about my own self-care for times when hes having an episode, so I dont get so easily sucked in. Brief excerpts (<250 words) may be shared with attribution & a link to the original post. He didnt like the way I went to the gym when we went together. LW, whatever you chose to do today is enough. I keep telling myself that. Finally I flat out refused. Do you know what actually made me feel so much better? A lot of people who have disabilities end up with serious social problems, at least for a while, as they have to figure out which people will still treat them well and which will cause them problems in all sorts of new ways. No amount of broccoli is going to make you a better or worse person, and they are not giving out Perfect Most Understanding Trying Hardest Enough Girlfriend awards (and even if they were, itd be a shitty reward, like a 10% off coupon to some restaurant you dont want to go to anyhow, and not a spaceship like we were promised). We ended up breaking up about a year later. . Im also in a place where I need to learn to feel good about myself and yet am in a home environment where I hear waaaay more criticism, scrutiny, and you should/shouldnts instead of support. Forgive me, but I get the feeling from your letter that its the latter. Because this literally never means My partner likes to get all the information about a problem before trying to solve it, or S/he really likes to do her/his research about an issue. They're Cold To You And more than. Which is, when you get down to it, rather like juxtaposing a floor mop and a ceiling duster as binary opposites the opposition is purely circumstantial, there are more similarities between the two than differences, and quite honestly, if pushed, either of them can perform the same tasks as the other if theyre the only thing to hand. The point is, I actively try to be a better partner and to listen to what he wants, and not just do to him what I think he needs. Take care of yourself. It can be hard to stop caring, even when someone has done nothing but bring you down. And it is reasonable to want people who are important in your life to be supportive and helpful. Without the receptive, captive audience, it isnt nearly as much fun for him. *I do not recommend you use this tone, Im just naturally combative and I hate being told what to do. Cant remember him ever doing this either. Its not that men suddenly become secretive when they lose interest in their relationship, its that men are not by nature sharers of information in the same way females are. Despite that, I managed to meet a kindred spirit. * If you dont see him getting anywere on that front, please dont think you have to keep pushing to make it work even at this point, nobody could fault you for leaving if thats the route you end up taking. It didnt make it easy, but it helped, and it showed support. As I recovered from the depression we had a couple of myob talks about lunch time menus, weight and health (soup was a bit of a red herring here). but its not like, oh man, now that I exercise I never feel sad! ", But It is indeed hard. Also, I think its wonderful you put food down in front of her. Some guys want to be in a serious relationship; others dont. In any case what was most helpful to me when I was trying to decide what to do about my then bf monitoring my exercise and how I acted and what I wore, was look at those things and all the other things we did together (which by that point was not much) and ask if this person seemed to like me. All unsolicited helping has a certain degree of arrogance to it because it necessarily implies that the helpee could not get this done without you. But LW, my heart hurts for you so hard right now and I want you to know you dont have to be afraid that you wont have love if you leave this person who doesnt listen to you and constantly makes you doubt your self worth. And he tried to change me, too (although I was worse): he was always trying to get me to relax more, to spend less time working and instead build my schedule around him. God, Im such a pathetic LOSER! And cue the tears and stress eating and whatever other bad depression habits you thought youd gotten under control. But when theres anger, that flips the whole dynamic on its head. Sometimes you just have to watch somebody else hurting and not be able to do anything about it. I dont know, maybe your boyfriend got out of a bad slump by getting really into exercise and tidying up his home, and hes being obnoxious about it because hes become the Helper. This is another clue that the boyfriend isnt all that invested in the LWs progress toward real, positive change. 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